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 Why this veil in believers

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MessageSujet: Why this veil in believers   Sam 16 Jan - 15:20

Why this veil in believers

Peace on you ..

I repeat myself a bit, but to paraphrase my brother Peter, I try by all means to get your attention to save, if possible, your soul .., emphasizing the major issues, and I will continue as long as God will give me the job ..

I'm in great sorrow, seeing these which speak of love, Jesus, but in fact they crucified because they are sinners who crucified Jesus there are now 2000 years, not the Jews. . So these are the same sinners who crucify him today, and want to drag you down with them ..

People talk to me about love, faith in Jesus, God .. they would almost convincing to follow, if I did not know God .. They are in fact a trap for the Gentiles, and also for the weak in faith, for the new born .. they are demons in the service of the devil ..

Beware of religions, my friend, you suspicious of everyone .. you wary of what you read, you wary of the ease, as the sacrifice of Jesus is not a joke, the suffering he endured are not for you to live like the nations .. If you live like the nations, you can not be an elected or even with God .. If you have no constraints, you have no chance to be a elected .. If we can live as before, or as the nations, then why would God let His son endure such suffering? .. There would not have needed such a sacrifice ..

1 Corinthians 9:25 All those who fight are required temperate in all things, and they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we, let's do an incorruptible.

The Old Testament is the shadow of things to come, so either a preview of what is to happen. We read that Noah was saved with his family, they were not numerous, as well as those who came out of Egypt, they are almost all died in the wilderness, it is their sons who passed over the Jordan into the promised land, even in our day, when the door is narrow and few find it ..

Matthew 7:
13 Enter through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it;
14 Because narrow is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and few there be that find it.


Jesus gives us some parables on the subject.
We have the ten virgins, which five have no access to heaven ..
We weddings where the guests do not go, they go so look for guests on street corners ..
We still have talent, representing the Spirit given in baptism, in which the one who does not do so fruitful, is being bound and thrown into the fire ..
Jesus tells us that access to the sky is very difficult, few are in the door .. So why do you take pleasure in ease? .. It can only lead you at the death ..

Jesus is the Word, the Word of God .. But what is this word of God? ..
Jesus is the word that was given to Moses. Initially the ten commandments and ordinances of the law, we read in the Torah ..

John 17:8 For I have given them the words which You have given me, and they have received them; and have known surely that I came out from You, and they believed that You sent Me You.

Exodus 31:18 And when finished speaking with Moses on Mount Sinai, He gave him the two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.


God, at first, talked with Moses and God introduces us into land promised by Jesus (Joshua). Jesus is the same word as Joshua in Hebrew ..

Deuteronomy 1:38 Joshua the son of Nun, who stands before you, he shall come there; encourage him, for it is he who will inherit Israel.

Deuteronomy 31:
7 And Moses called Josue, and said to him before the eyes of all Israel, Be strong and be firm; because thou go with this people into the land which the Lord swore to their fathers to give them, and thou shalt inherit theirs.
14 And the Lord said to Moses, Behold, the day of your death is approaching; call Joshua, and present yourselves in the tent of meeting, that I give my command. And Moses and Joshua went and presented themselves in the tent of meeting.
23 And the Lord commanded Josue the son of Nun, saying, Be strong and be firm because it is you who bring them in, the son of Israel into the land which I have promised them by oath, and I, I will be with you.


Joshua 1:
7 Only be strong and be very firm, to observe to do according to all the law which Moses My servant commanded you ordered; you not from it to the right or left, that thou mayest prosper wherever you go.
8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy ways, and then shalt thou prosper.
9 Have I not commanded thee, Be strong and be firm? Leaves terrify thee, and be not afraid; for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go.


Already in these few verses, we read that nothing is abolished by the word of God .. In this passage of Joshua, we read though he must keep the Torah ..
Moreover Jesus in the New Testament says that you do not come to abolish but to fulfill ..
So Jesus did not come to destroy the word of God, but Jesus came to conquer death by his sacrifice (Hebrews 9 and 10) .. Jesus came to fulfill the mission of his sacrifice to defeat death Jesus .. came to bring us eternal life through His sacrifice, IF we do the will of God .. if we use this sacrifice to live for God .. We will become a new creature, died when the world, but alive to God .. It is obvious that those who refuse God, can not in any case enjoy the sacrifice of Jesus ..

Daniel 9:24 seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the holy of holies.

Romans 6:
4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that we should not serve sin.
10 For in that he died, he died once and for all under sin; but in that he lives, he lives to God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves-dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body so that you obey it in the lusts thereof;
13 and do not present your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God, as the dead are alive, and your members to God as instruments of righteousness.


Here is what Jesus said:

Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than it is one tittle of the law falls.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill;


Measuring well-thought of this verse Jesus told you .. although He is not come to destroy the word of God, then why did the law abolished? .. So Jesus abolishes nothing but accomplishes something .. Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets ..
These prophets which Jesus makes us mention, are the prophets of the Old Testament .. The psalms are the prayers of Jesus (you've demonstrated with Psalm 22, read in full, but the irrefutable verse is verse 16: dogs surrounded me, a gathering of villains surrounded me: they pierced my hands and my feet ..
and many times you read, His contempt for those who forsake the word of God, His law and His ordinances .. I give you some references, but there are hundreds ..

Psalms 78:10 They did not keep God's covenant, and refused to walk in His law;

Psalms 119:
53 A fiery indignation seized me because of the wicked that forsake Thy law
126 It is time for the LORD to act, they canceled Your law.
150 Those who pursue wickedness approached me; they are far from Your law.


Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination.

Isaiah 5:24 Therefore as the tongue of fire devours the stubble, and as the grass sinks down in the flame, their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust; because they have rejected the law of the LORD of hosts, and rejected with disdain the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Isaiah 30:9 that this is a rebellious people, lying son, the son who did not hear the law of the LORD;


Jeremiah 6:19 Hear, O earth, Behold, I will bring evil upon this people, the fruit of their thoughts; because they have not hearkened to My words, and My law, they have rejected it.

Psalms 50:5 Gather Me My saints, who made a covenant with me by sacrifice (the sacrifice of Jesus).


Jeremiah 31:
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, and I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant,
32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband, saith the Lord
33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law within them, and I will write it in their heart, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people;

Psalms 106:5 That I may see the good of Your chosen, that I may rejoice in the joy of Thy nation, that I may glory with Your inheritance.


I have the impression that you did not make a covenant with God?! .. Then why do you say you elected, or child of God? .. If you have not made a covenant with God, then you are a pagan, like the others! ..
When you live as the nations with the nations, and that you affirm you of God's people, you insult God, because nations have unhealthy practices, while God instructs His people with a law and law orders, to become holy, for His glory! ..

God's law is divided into two parts:
- law (the Ten Commandments), and
- the ordinances of the law (Numbers, Deuteronomy, Leviticus) that instruct us on what we are allowed to do and what is forbidden us ..

God has commanded us this law and these ordinances, to educate us, to make us holy .. Because of our carnal birth, our ways of the world, we can not, under any circumstances, please God .. So This law and these ordinances are useful for our edification, for our evolution to make us perfect ..

Leviticus 20:23 You walk in the manners of the nations which I am casting out before you; for they committed all these things, and I have abhorred them.

Deuteronomy 18:12 For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and it is because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.


Which is no longer in force, are the sacrifices, replaced by the sacrifice of Jesus (Hebrews 9 and 10) .We could even say, all carnal ordinances, such as circumcision, the tongue of leather around our arms , the messuza, etc ..

It will also remove the death because Jesus came to abolish the death .. Jesus conquered death by his sacrifice ..
We can see it with the adulterous woman before Jesus she was stoned, after the sacrifice of Jesus, she is forgiven .. That does not mean that one can commit adultery, but it means that Jesus brings us Superior dispensation .. Jesus brings love .. understanding in our weakness, pity ..
In contrast, Jesus helps us in all our weaknesses, to defeat them, and for us to enter the kingdom of God .. Jesus overcame the world to me, and allows us to overcome the world ..
I am weak, but Jesus is strong for me, He fight for me ..

Here are two verses that assure us that this law is still in force ..

Romans 2:
13 (because it is not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified;
14 For when the Gentiles who have no law, do by nature the things of the law, having no law, they are to act themselves,
15 and they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also time witness, and their thoughts accuse them or as apologizing)

Romans 3:31 we then make void the law through faith? God forbid! on the contrary, we establish the law.


Apocalypse 12:17 And the dragon was angry against the woman, and went to make war against the remnant of the seed of the woman, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus.

Apocalypse 14:12  Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.


Apocalypse 14:
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God poured out without mixture into the cup of his wrath; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and if anyone takes the mark of his name.


Remember that those who take the mark of the beast are those who prefer to follow the orders of the world rather than the ordinances of God .. This is also valid for the feasts of God, calendar, etc ..
The mark of the beast is to be a slave of the world, is to follow the world ..
The seal of God is to be a slave of God, to follow God ..

Here are the topics of elected .. The elect are priests ..

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

Apocalypse 1:6 and he (Jesus) hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever! Amen.

Apocalypse 5:10 and hast made them kings and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth.

Apocalypse 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection, on such the second death has no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


What one should know and understand is that the elect are priests, and the priests teach the law .. The priests are not catholics/protestants or bishops, or imams, or rabbis, because they do not have Jesus (Apocalypse 1:6; Deuteronomy 31:23) ..

Ezra 7:11 And this is the copy of the letter that King Artaxerxes gave to Ezra the priest the scribe, scribe of the words of the commandments of the Lord and his statutes given to Israel,

Malachi 2:7 For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and from his mouth we research the law because he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.


Why are you so blinded to understand the truth? ..

2 Thessalonians 2:
9 whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 and in all deceit of unrighteousness in them that perish, because they received not the love of the truth to be saved.
11 And because of this, God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Isaiah 6:
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people: Hearing you will hear and you will not understand, and seeing you will see and you will not know.
10 fattens the heart of this people, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes, lest they see with the eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and it is healed.


Ephesians 4:18 understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart;

Matthew 13:15  because the heart of this people is waxed, and they are dull their ears, and they have closed their eyes, lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears they and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Psalms 55:20 The wicked laid his hands on those who are at peace with him; he profaned his covenant.

Proverbs 4:16 For they sleep not except they have done evil, and their sleep is taken away if they had tripped over;


The Ten Commandments can never be removed .. So if I remove the shabbath or so the fourth commandment, so I can steal, kill, covet, etc. .. what a difference between them? ..

The shabbath is not for Jews, but for the elect, and the rest of the commandments .. You'd be surprised to know the circumstances of the abolition of shabbath, this change of statutes of God .. Read more ..

Exodus 31:13 You, son of Israel speak, saying, Certainly you will keep My Sabbaths, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that it is I, the LORD who sanctify you.

Ezekiel 20:12 And I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.


The Roman emperor Constantine converted to Christianity, also appreciated the solar cult. He imposed Sunday as the day of rest in the Roman Empire by decree on March 7 321. So the day of the sun among Roman becomes the Day of the Lord.

Here happened Monday, March 7 321 (source: wikipedia)
The Roman emperor Constantine I, made by order of the "Day of the Sun" (that is to say, Sunday) the weekly day of rest (Justinian Code 3.12.2).

Canons of the Council of Laodicea in 364

Canon 29
It is not proper for Christians to Judaize and rest the Sabbath, but must work on that day; they must rest on Sunday as Christians, preferring that day if they want. Under pain of anathema.

It is the same for parties, calendars, etc ..

The Council of Nicaea, put in place by the Emperor Constantine, about the year 325, manipulated our festivals and our calendar .. (source: Council of Nicaea)

Synodal letters

"We also reached two letters to the Church of Alexandria: the so-called Council of synodal letter letter to the Church of Alexandria and the Emperor Constantine said: encyclical letter to the churches. They teach us that the council ruled on the Meletians and on the date of Passover."

The synodal letter specifies:

"We also warn that the dispute regarding the date on which the Passover should be celebrated, was fortunately ended with the help of your prayers and all our brothers who are in the East, who once celebrated the Passover on same day as the Jews, to celebrate in the future the same day as the Romans, and the others who celebrate with us always. "

Following this emperor and the obligations these ways, you take the mark of the beast, the mark of Babylon, the brand rights, and you reject God ..
I would like to point out something simple to understand .. Who does not follow the orders of God, is not with God .. Man, the world, Babylon, so the devil, trying to drag you down with him .. The elected include the word of God and what is written, because the Bible is for them ..

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets; and shall show great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity against God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


I wrote about several topics such manipulation of religion, this Bible too, which is different for different countries, which comes to us Catholics, caesar, and Jews of your apostle Paul (who is not my apostle) which says honor of Caesar, and also leads you into other aberrations. I posted on this topics ..

Philippians 4:22 All the saints salute you, especially those of Caesar's household.

John 19:15  But they cried, Take away, take away! Crucify him! Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your king? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

Matthew 22:
17 Tell us therefore, what do you think, is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?
21 .. Then he said to them, Render therefore the things of Caesar to Caesar, and the things of God to God


John 21:
15 When therefore they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of John, do you love me more than do these? He said, Yes, Lord, you know I love you. He told him, Feed my lambs.
16 He said to him a second time, Simon, son of John, do you love me? He said, Yes, Lord, you know I love you. He said, Be shepherd of my flock.
17 He said to him the third time, Simon son of Jonah, do you love me? Peter was grieved that he said to him the third time, Do you love me? And he said, Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you. Jesus said to him, Feed my sheep ..


I wrote topics of all these contradictions, all these defects and scams of all kinds that we can read in the bible ..
The Bible is for the elected, we does not read it with words, but with the Spirit that God gives us, at baptism, however, if we did not go out .. It is this Spirit that makes us understand things and leads us into truth .. It is this Spirit that leads to the narrow door, then God ..

John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world can not receive, because it sees Him not and do not know Him; but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

John 16:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth, It is expedient for you that I go away; for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I go, I will send you the.
13 But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak by Himself; but He will tell whatever He hears, and He will shew you things to come.


1 Thessalonians 5:19 Quench not the Spirit;

Apocalypse 3:
14 And the angel of the church in Laodicea write, These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation,
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot!
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and that you are neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and I am enriched me, and I need nothing; and knowest not that thou art the wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eye drops eyes, that thou mayest see.


Who is Laodicea? .. You think this is not for you, but this message is for Greek in the Jesus' time?? .. My poor friend, Laodicea is the last church, or so believers today ! ..
All religions that do not have Jesus and the word of God (the law), are religions of demons, introduced to mislead people .. Read more ..

Matthew 15:9 but in vain worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but having itching ears they, they heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts,

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you who surreptitiously introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon them- themselves swift destruction

Titus 1:16 They profess to know God but by their works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate.

Deuteronomy 28:
13 And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail; and thou shalt not be as above, and you will not be beneath; if you obey the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you today, to keep and practice them,
14 and if you turn away, to the right or left, of any of the words which I command you today, to go after other gods to serve them.
15 And if you do not listen to the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day, it shall be that all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you ..


When is it the freedom which Jesus talks to us ..

John 8:
32 and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free
33 They answered him, We are Abraham's seed, and we never were in person from bondage; how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say to you, everyone who sins is a slave of sin.
36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.

Romans 8:21 in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and enjoy the freedom of the glory of God's children.


Mockingbirds, world people, religions, etc .. use these verses to do anything and live anyhow .. They use these verses to live like before they become a new creature in God ..
But these verses tell us much freedom from sin, nothing else .. Before the sacrifice of Jesus, we were slaves of sin, Jesus has freed us .. This is the freedom we enjoy .. sin has not more power over us .. But we are not free to live in debauchery! ..

Romans 6:
6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that we should not serve sin.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts.
13 Do not yield your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but give yourselves to God as being alive from the dead you were, and offer to God your members as instruments of righteousness.


Ephesians 2:2 (in which once you market, according to the course of this world, according to the head of the power of the air, the spirit that now operates in the son of disobedience;

Hebrews 2:14 Since then the children have shared in blood and flesh, he also similarly has participated, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, -dire the devil;


1 John 5:
18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin, but he who is born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch.
19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the wicked.

1 John 4:4 For you children, you are from God and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he that is in the world.

1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments as we;


Amen!!..
I let you meditate on what you have just read .. It is never to late to do well, to save your soul..  Unhappy! .. If you are not with God, you will end as of eternal torment ..

Apocalypse 14:
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God poured out without mixture into the cup of his wrath; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and if anyone takes the mark of his name.


Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

Jude 1:
4 For certain men have crept among the faithful, once registered in advance for this condemnation, ungodly, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
5 Now I desire to remind you, you who once knew all, that the Lord, having saved the people out of Egypt, then destroyed those who believed not;
6 and he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day, the angels who kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation,


Peace on you ..
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