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MessageSujet: alcohol    Dim 27 Juil - 20:51

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Here is a subject dear to my heart to tell you, I think for you, the confusion is total ...
Can or not drinking alcohol?
Will search the scriptures for the answer ..
All meet me: Yes, Jesus drank wine at the last supper, and also, He changed water into wine at the wedding of Cana, then Paul told us to drink a little wine ... read the verses.

Matthew 26:29 But I tell you now that I will not drink of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. (Mark 2:25 / / Luke 10:18)

John 2:
1 And the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

2 And Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples.
3 And the wine having come to miss the mother of Jesus saith unto him : They have no wine.
4 Jesus saith unto her : What is there between me and thee, woman? My hour has not yet come.
5 His mother said to the servants : Do whatever he tells you.
6 Now there were six stone vessels to hold water, placed there by the use of the purifying of the Jews, each holding two or three measures.
7 Jesus saith unto them : Fill the water vessels. And they filled them up to the top.
8 And he said unto them : Draw out now, and take it to the headwaiter. And they took it.
9 But when the butler had tasted the water that had become wine, and he knew not whence it came (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of hotel called the bridegroom,
10 and said : Every man serves the good wine first, and then lower, after it has drunk; thou hast kept the good wine until now.


1 Timothy 5:23 Do not drink more than just water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

Here are the 3 main parts, those confusing. There will always be a contrary verse is for those who do not want to do well. Many people try, the scriptures, not to do good and to please God, but to know how to like people of the world, without being punished or fault ... In fact, many are called, few elected .. people do not want to leave the world, they want the blessings of God while living as people of the world, eternal life in debauchery. Holiness or debauchery, we must choose ...

So take the first verse,

Matthew 26:29 But I tell you now that I will not drink of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. (Mark 2:25 / / Luke 10:18)

I do not read wine, but the fruit of the vine .. this is for Mark and Luke.

- Grape juice is the fruit of the vine
- The wine is the fruit of the vine fermented

I do not see Jesus on a mission to save humanity, representative of God, being God Himself, therefore, could not be more holy, drinking alcohol, and give us this example ...

Continue, we go to the wedding of Cana,

John 2:
1 And the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

2 And Jesus also was invited to the wedding with his disciples.
3 And the wine having come to miss the mother of Jesus saith unto him : They have no wine.
4 Jesus saith unto her : What is there between me and thee, woman? My hour has not yet come.
5 His mother said to the servants : Do whatever he tells you.
6 Now there were six stone vessels to hold water, placed there by the use of the purifying of the Jews, each holding two or three measures.
7 Jesus saith unto them : Fill the water vessels. And they filled them up to the top.
8 And he said unto them : Draw out now, and take it to the headwaiter. And they took it.
9 But when the butler had tasted the water that had become wine, and he knew not whence it came (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of hotel called the bridegroom,
10 and said : Every man serves the good wine first, and then lower, after it has drunk; thou hast kept the good wine until now.


Please read these verses, we must retain the attention to verse 10.
In this passage wedding, wine represents the people of God, and the Spirit with these people.

Wine is missing (v.3) = the people astray, he no longer had the Spirit of God with him, he had no God ...
They fill water jugs (v.7) = water baptism
The wine is better than the first = the new covenant with Jesus, they are elected, they are not Jews.
There was more wine, more of God, we pass through the waters of baptism, and receiving the Spirit, the new wine, this alliance is better than the old covenant dispensation is changed ...

3 And the wine having come to miss the mother of Jesus saith unto him : They have no wine.
4 Jesus saith unto her : What is there between me and thee, woman? My hour has not yet come.


The key is to v.4: My hour has not yet come ... this is the answer that Jesus gave to Mary, when she told him that there was more wine ...

The wine in this passage wedding is the blood ... (the blood of the grape)

Deuteronomy 32:14 Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of Bashan and goats, with the finest of wheat; And thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape.

The former wine = animal sacrifices, blood
Water jugs = baptism
The best new wine = blood of Jesus, His sacrifice, better than animals.

In the passage from Timothy, we must know that the grape is a cure-all. The grape is a fruit that cures different ailments, including upset stomach, grapes heals, soothes pain, ulcers and for others it is good ...

1 Timothy 5:23 Do not drink more than just water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

We drink a little wine in these disease conditions, a little ... used as a therapy ..

So much for these few verses that your understanding was another, also read what is written, be sober and holy ...

Proverbs 23:
7 For as he thinketh in his heart. Eat and drink, will he say; But his heart is not with thee.
19 Listen, my son, and be wise; Your heart on the right track.
20 Be not among wine drinkers, among those that are excess meat:
29 Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaints? Who has wounds without cause? Who has bloodshot eyes?
30 Those who linger over wine, those who go to taste the wine mixed.
31 Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly.
32 It bites like a serpent, and stings like an adder.


Proverbs 31:
4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel (devoted to God), It is not for kings to drink wine, nor for princes strong drink,
6 Give strong drink to him who is perishing liqueurs, and wine unto those that the bitter in soul;
7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and he remembered no more of his troubles.


Isaiah 5:
11 Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may follow strong drink, that continue until into the night, till wine inflame them!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink;

Jeremiah 35:6 But they said : We will drink no wine; for Jonadab (God Force) son of Rechab (jumper), our father, commanded us: You never drink wine, neither you, nor your son;


Hosea 4:11 Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart.

Romans 2:21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, and refrain from what may be your brother to stumble, scandal or weakness.

Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess. Be the contrary, filled with the Spirit;


The verses speak for themselves, it is important to be sober, to analyze everything and filling of the Spirit of God.

1 Peter 4:
3 That's enough, in fact, have in the past time doing the desire of the gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, drunkenness, surfeiting, and drunkenness, and abominable idolatries.
7 But the end of all things is approached; therefore sober and be sure to pray;


1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be watchful: your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about [you], seeking whom he may devour.

We all know the different examples that made the wrong patriarchs ..

Noah

Genesis 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken, and he was uncovered within his tent.

lot

Genesis 19:
30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; because he was afraid to dwell in Zoar; and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger : Our father is old, and there is no man on earth to come to us in the manner of all the earth.
32 Come, let drink wine with our father, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33 And they did drink wine to their father that night; and the firstborn went in and lay with her ​​father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger : Behold, I lay last night with my father; let us make him drink wine this night also; and will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they did drink wine to their father that night also; and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
36 And the two daughters of Lot with child by their father.


Hosea 7:5 In the day of our king the princes have made him sick with bottles of wine; He stretched out his hand with scorners.

The conclusion of the verses we have just read is:

1 Corinthians 6:
15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute?
19 Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and you are not your not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.


1 Peter 1:
13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ,
15 But as he who called you is holy, so be ye holy in all your conduct;
16 because it is written : Be ye holy, for I am holy (Leviticus 8:26)


Everyone knows that alcohol is not good, it changes our state of being, our personality. We can not control its effects. We can not control the passage of lucidity to the harmful effect. We drink by saying that will stop before, but now, it was too much to drink ...

Leviticus 8:26 And ye shall be my holy because I am holy, the Lord; and I have separated you from the peoples to be mine.

God bless you..
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